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woih! panjang nak baca nih! went away for 6 hours and the page grew by a few feet!! Seems like a lot of people are reading, so aku nak buat iklan skit!
OPPOSITION PARTY KL SHOW
RM15, 8.30 pm
Friday, 17th November 2006
Little Havana, KL
Other acts will be announced soon.
okay, now kena baca ll of the above! and my comments will follow…
HEHEHEHEHE
I walk alone, I’m lonely
Why should we hear your problems?
I sit at home, I’m crying
Don’t wanna know, we don’t care
My baby’s gone, she left me
Suits you right boy, you now it
My world gone wrong, please help me
We have no time, no beat it!
And everyday, we share our dreams
And everynight, we laugh at things
Now you don’t care, now you don’t feel
So many friends, now where they’ll be?
Now you tell me…
some ppl just making a big fuss out of this.no matter what some ppl says,there will always be othe ppl who turns it all the way around.
I think all these stuff about who is diy_jeff, who is that and who is this, itu semua tak penting.
Dan mengikut John_Doe, semua issue serta perihal yang timbul dalam perbincangan ini juga tak penting. Jadi apa yang penting? Tak da apa yang penting lagi dah. Nothing is sacred. Semua boleh jalan.
Kalau begitu, bagi saya lah, Uniform Choice’s Screaming for Change tu, hanya satu laungan untuk diri sendiri, tanpa dihala-tujukan untuk sesiapa. Dead Kennedys’ Nazi Punks Fuck Off tu, hanya Jello Biafra berteriak kat dalam jamban dia sebab ayah dia berak tak flush. Never Again oleh si Discharge juga hanya kemarahan Colin terhadap mak dia yang masak tak sedap. Ucapan-ucapan, tulisan serta suggestions dari Encik Noam Chomsky juga bukan untuk sesiapa, hanya untuk melepas boring takda kerja. Gitu jugak dengan pelbagai rentetan oleh para artists, musicians, pemikir etc. yang berjuang untuk kebaikan sedunia. Yang coba merombak rangka-rangka keburukan untuk kesamarataan, untuk dunia yang lebih baik dari apa yang ada. Destroy Babylon kata Bad Brains, itu saja HR nak tiru Bob Marley, bukan serious pun.
Aku pun tak nak serius jugak. So do anything you wanna do la bro. Sya tulis ni pun, bukan untuk awak baca. Saja boring.
caya la Joe…screaming for change or make a change..hahah…
YEAH! btol tu…
macam jugak budaya lain yang semakin terancam dengan keburukan kapitalisma aku harap punk rock akan sentiasa melawan anasir anasir tamak ni.anymeans necessary.
Karen Freakism…hmmm aka Karen Tan..ex-girlfirend of an in-liner name Boy..i think i know u then…this is your page right? http://www.myspace.com/freakism
and the middle girl look familiar.. http://myspace-082.vo.llnwd.net/01216/28/09/1216249082_l.jpg
think saw you at the skatepark during the Institue Advertising Communcation Training (IACT) open day last year..and before that i think always saw you hang out with your ex-boy the inliner name Boy at mid valley skatepark a few years back…so we’ve meet before… ; ) no big deal…
Hmmm…. This thing is starting to sound like a persidangan parliment hehe 🙂
well I dont quite give a damm, All i know is DIY is a part of my life, And it’s also a part of everybody life. We all live the life ladies and gentelmen.
For a young kid, Im very proud to be playing music in malaysia, cause the scene is awesome, Although it’s not like the 90s (which is one of my favourite era hehe) but still i could see a lot of good stuff coming out.
Even a lot of old band is making a comeback for example joe’s band carburator dung is doing an album, MEtal Band Rator is doing an album,Spunky funggy is doing an album and a lot more band is making a comeback and this kind of stuff is great cause if we see in other country there a bit less like this . ;).
Posurs will always exist and they will always be everywhere, to tell you the truth even i myself hate them a damm lot, cause i happen to a friend of mine which is also an ex-bass player who played in my band for i think about a couple of month. Im telling you before this he didn’t know anything until i took him and teach him how to play bass and also teach him a bit about the music scene and music genre in the world. Then after a few month he started to hang out with his class mate which is a posurs and always act like he is something. I told him that i dont mind you hang out with them cause their your friends but what ever it is dont listen to their bullshit cause once you listen to it your lost forever and basicly destroy your life.
So guess what he didn’t listen, and he also quite my band star to mock me and threat me and also back stabb me. But i dont give a damm cause he only message me but when i ask him to meet me he dosen’t have the ball to go and meet. even with all 15 of his friends.
So basicly just ignore them, they dont bother you, you dont have to bother them. But if they do we kick some ass HAHAHAHA 🙂
Malaysia media is totally dead, in my point of view there’s all are the cause of Brain pollution to the kids of this days, Because of them they the underground or should i say the local scene is running slow, and that is sad. You can see clearly, For example like the indonesia gig the place was pack but Rock the world or normal gig only a bit of them who are really interested came. And that is super sad
Not sure about other peoples opinion. 🙂
I just hope that one day malaysia music and art scene could rise and become know to the world so that they will know about our culture and tradition and inderstand more about us cause that’s what im planning to do, and im sure heck dont need the damm goverment approval for it. hahaha 🙂
Oh yeah lastly Selamat Menyambut Puasa dan RAYA to Joe Kidd, JAY,Nizang and everbody in this ricecooker page. JOE GOOD LUCK WITH THE NASI DAGANG GIG!!!! WWish i could come but got SPM hehe 🙂
ni pun nak gi jgk.
Selamat Hari Raya to you too…!!!
So we’ve met before. Was it really necessary to post all of that here on the forum? If you have a personal problem with me, come meet face-to-face. Let’s talk. Why do you feel the need to announce to the world that you know me, or that you’ve found my profile, or that you know my real name? AT LEAST I HAVE THE COURAGE NOT TO HIDE BEHIND A FUCKING ID UNLIKE YOU.
FUCKING BRING IT.
I don’t know Joe Kidd, I don’t know shamir, even I don’t know what hell happen around 1996… DIY? I’, a comeback kid. making own music is DIY. Hardcore itself more talking about changing…. so what? UnitedxFront making proper DIY Gig. Not taking money from kids. We trying so hard to make more gig, so more HC/punk people can gather and talking about the good old days…. talking about the lost Hameed Stall at Central Market, naahhh
xhuzaibax
You leave so much dirt in our face,How are we goin to forgive you?dammit bro, you screw it up.Its just a fuckin events.And we were concerning about others ethics and principles.We cant tell people how to live their life?Everyone ways is not the right way to live,Its a matter of choice.I thought Hc punk is a way of life?I live it wisely without depending on capitalism intoxications,It doesnt matter if other people are not living the way we are,What about respect and integrity?Where the fuck did compassion over humanity has gone?Are we so blind to see that we are all made from the same earth and blood?Why are we eager to fight with each other?cant we see that thousands of people died because of war in Palestine,Iraq and lubnan.Im dissapointed with all of us.Didnt we learned from 13 May our fathers were killed in the rage of race,degradation fear for difference has been expected.Discrimination in the name of racism and sexism.
Do you wanna know why we have soundscape and Nao on the list,because these guys are fuckin nice guys,Do you ever had chinese bands in your shows?The only thing that we think about was making a multiracial gig that seldomly held in any of the Malaysian events,
continued.And we been harrased by doing this?The only thing that on my mind was to attract Chinese and Indians community to join the festivals and prove that Hc events are not just dominated by malays.Thats why we choose MPCA hall as our next events and propose Soundscape to particapted,and they had choose to make an event in Penang which mostly are big bands.Im sorry if we cant do it traditionally diy,but we did it with our own pocket money, and its not an easy thing to do in terms of quality and satisfaction for the sake of the new genarations.This is unlike skateboard events that we see sponsored by ESPN and Coca Cola,Its not sponsored either,We borrow money from this labels to make an events.We still fuckin poor,I still cant afford live in a small room with Whan.
This shows inspired by our seniors big events like I thrash before I am or Radio Malaya.Whats so differents between me and you?difference between LMB and PLAGUE?We making this events with the trust of other friends,people that we love and people that try to grow up together in this 10 years,we help bands and labels to used a platform to speak.So tell me what did you do?
by the way stop harrassing Ms Karen Tan.Thanks to everyone who had shows support to us,to the scene.if anyone who feels dissatisfied with what we did or I said,dont afraid to confront me to discuss any subjects related with the above,Im free to talk.Thanks.
Trust me, you don’t need to know Joe Kidd, or Shammir or anyone who other people tagged as “otai”, “orang lam”, “veteran”, “scene polis” or whatever nicknames derogatory or flowery.
Nobody needs to “kow-tow” with these people. They are all individuals, each one of them different from each other, and they also have their disagreement with each other. Hell, me and Shammir didn’t talk to each other for years. Me and Weng went through almost three years of not talking to each other. Not even a hello.
The thing is we accepted all that. We accepted that we are different, with different schools of thought and different ways of seeing and doing things. For me, this is what makes it beautiful. Relationships that take each other as it is, as a package, good and bad. I believe there’s this mutual respect between us. It takes several years to build that up, but here we are as good friends that argue all the time.
So yeah, we have been in the scene for a long time, and we do things for the scene etc. Big deal. When it comes to the basics, they are just like you really. Individuals. Our shit may even smell worse than yours, y’know. We are just people, nothing special.
But the one of the main thing we all agree with and what I believe bind us together is punk rock and for us, punk rock is about being critical of what you see around you. It’s about bullshit detecting. You smell bullshit, you go up and question it. It’s about taking up a stance, and find ways to counter the bullshit. You see things in other ways, look at the alternatives, and try NOT to become the problem you see around you.
Some would do that quietly, privately but most would like to share these observations, the feeling, the anger, the despair etc. with other people. That is the “rock” part of the “punk rock”. And most of the time this “sharing” is done right onto your faces. Unbridled honest angry opinions right or wrong or sensible or not or practical or not.
All these questions are brought forth by people who care about what’s happening. It has nothing to do with making that certain someone smells better. It has nothing to do with jealousy or pride. It has nothing to do with being an asshole and bring down someone’s party just for the sake of it. It just people trying to make sense of what’s happening.
To do that, you put forth questions, you put forth arguments. It may be “idealistic”, “naive” or unsensible for some people, but it’s a crucial part of understanding the problem, digging through the bullshit.
If you truly understand the nature of this charateristic, you would expect being asked all these question, you would expect a backlash, you would gladly have a good argument, you would even welcome all sort of criticisms and tell your side of the story.
I guess all of the above, where we have all the unnecessary bad-mouthing, personal attacks et al, is because some people here can’t take criticism of any kind. They want to have it easy, no questions asked, no trouble. Sapu-sapu all the sampah under the carpet then forget it all, as if everything is alright. Well, some people are NOT like that.
Some people need to get to the bottom of what they see as a pile of shit. It smells and they wonder why the shit is there. So they asked and they prodded. Why? Well, because these issues are important to them. Imagine seeing your strongly-held convictions, your principles being challenged by the same people who they thought were their comrades. It’s a betrayal.
Of course, for some people, they would say, “fuck! this is my business and you have no right to question it”. Well, that’s true too, but when you belong to a certain community, imagined or real, a community that peceived itself as going against the bullshit, the other members of the community has the right to ask, “hey, what’s up with that shit?”
I hate it when people point their finger, and say oh you cari pasal, saja nak but hal, menyibuk and all that shit, punk rock is all about that lah. You don’t sit around twiddle your thumbs and sing “let it be, let it be,”. You get off your arse and sing “fuck that shit! here’s what I think…”
That what makes punk rock relevant in the past, the present and the future, and that is precisely why I’m still here all these years. You take that away from punk or hardcore and there will be nothing left to hold dear. Without that spirit we might as well groom ourselves as possible popstars, enter next year’s Malaysian Idol, Rock Unite and join Umno Youth. Be dumb, be deaf, be blind; and rake in the blood money!
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encik radio terbang,
1. My memories of CM, is more about Restoran Yussoof than Hameed. And also, those were our days, and I’m sure every single one of you have your own places, stalls, hangout which you are still talking about; your own days. It’s just the same sentimentality attached. No need to put that down.
2. Don’t get me wrong. UxF can do whatever they want and I will go to the gigs if I have time or if I wanna check out some bands and I’ll buy the releases if they are good. The thing is I believe what UxF is trying to do is admirable, but it doesn’t mean that I agree with some of the methods. And it also doesn’t mean that they have to follow what I think is good. Everyone is his/her own. Tepuk dada, tanya selera.
BTW; I’m not a person who likes to boycott people and dis them just because they don”t share my thoughts. I’m not Prime Minister Benito Mussolini, but do allow me to speak whenever I have a bee in my bonnet and please, do tell me when I’m wrong.
So that’s karen. U look well educated (its a good thing for UxF to have u with them)
But boy, is it necessary to put karen myspace profile here? and im thinking why u had to did that bro? is it some kind of threat, humiliation or something? anyway that’s not a good move from a well known person like u. Pardon me if im wrong, but i think the way u did that was to post a threat to her. Maybe u can tell peeps here the real reason u put her profile link in public.
Or maybe u can put your friend, sharil88 profile link here, because i think lots of peeps here are interested to know who he is.
p/s: DIY or NOT, almost everyone now are consuming piece of rupert murdoch shit. 🙂
To Karen, Ein and thisdayallgodsdie
Tak..bukan threat…since Karen is a smart person..nanti kalau aku kata aku kenal dia sure dia nak proof…so here’s the proof..about ex-Boy dia tu sebab once aku tgk muka Karen aku kenal la no one told me pun..sebab ex-boy dia budak in-line and aku kenal la..nama dia pun Boy gak…and just nak make sure yang myspace tu betul la org dia..manalah tahu silap org..so aku letak link tu bukannya apa pun…aku bukannya serial killer pun..sorry ek Karen….
No i don’t have personal problems with you at all Karen..marah pun tak…just nak confirm that’s u la…tu jer…again kalau marah aku SORRY..jumpa face to face pun aku akan kata sorry..aku bukan kaki pukul la… and i don’t hide my identity behind that id..semua or disini tahu sapa aku…aku rasa aku dah mentioned my band name and my name above. My name is Boy well offcourse ramai Boy and DxF is Disasterfunhouse…there’s only one Boy Disaster and that’s me… my band myspace pun ada kat top list United Front..so ok ye…
To EIN..
Aku tak sure yang ko tulis ti refers to aku coz ..
1st – Aku tak mentioned anything bout DIY
2nd – Aku tak ada tulis pun or kata boikot or menentang, melawan or tak setuju ngan cara UxF
3rd – Aku tak kisah pun pasal sponsor tu sebab memang aku tak kisah…note the text yang aku chat ngan Huzaiba (DAH BYK KALI AKU TULIS DI ATAS)
4th – Aku tak benci or against tindakan UxF or Second Combat or personally EIN himself..baca bawah tgk…
sk8edgecrew (12:02:40 AM): aku sedar sal tu years ao beb
radioterbang (12:02:44 AM): uxf tak menang tgn skrg ni
sk8edgecrew (12:02:46 AM): ago beb
radioterbang (12:02:57 AM): siap ada label nak sponser rm20000 lagi beb
sk8edgecrew (12:03:04 AM): aku proud ngan UxF and xSCx (baca apa aku tulis ni..adakah ini menunjuk aku benci korang or nak boikot..hmm..fikir balik)
5th – Baca post baru ko and aku rasa aku pun tak ada sebut pasal Nao or Soundscape coz i don’t care korang nak main ngan sapa pun..it’s ur band your call, your choice, KEHENDAK korang…
6th – Aku tak ada maki pun kat sini so sila baca post aku di atas di mana aku pun tak leh edit…so bacala jika ko jumpa perkataan kasar. Coz for your info, aku bukan nak buat musuh, gaduh or merumitkan keadaan.
7th – yang pasti bukan aku yg start memanaskan keadaan forum ni..so sila baca sapa post apa diatas sekali
helo joe
I guess you misunderstood what im trying to say here
for whatever the earlier band 1979 till now say in their lyrics its always be serious thing for them. and its influence me in a way or other. But its always about choices if i wanna follow or not. Thats a choice and hardcore teach me. Its always about choices. Its about expression/ideas of the band and if an audience wanna follow or learn anything about it. Thats their choice. Not getting drunk, be in DIY or mainstream or whatever it is. its about choices. I dont mean those bands were not serious. But for doing thing on my opinion this kids can decide whats best for them so let them be. SO theres nothing wrong with it. Its been sometime we have seen people are poking each other. Why dont give a rest and let them be? You or whoever disagree you can do by your own thing or those kids also can do whatever their think possible for them. I maybe dont agree with both sided but I dont think its important that i told what they do are wrong or you are wrong or who ever its wrong. The point is to do your own work without pointing finger.
misunderstanding other people messages might leads towards confussion; thus, might coz negative impact [some of it quite big]. same scenario attached like people understanding towards lyrics – some might take the direct words from the lyrics and some might learn and try to figure out the inner messages inside the songs. it’s depend to each individuals to judge or have their own definition, however… if they misunderstood or misjudge it, it might turn to worst scenario.
personal issue might influence this circumstances as well, let say, if A don’t like B, no matter what B do… it will still wrong for A. this is what we referred as ‘mind setting’. sad to say that tolerance is already gone far away from our scene. communication (which suppose to be positive) turn into a debate arena, and again – ‘rumors’ controlled the whole state of mind. and one thing for sure, barriers between us will only make it worst.
have a good n fun scene. love it or leave it.
Selamat Hari Raya juga Aiman!! Good luck for SPM!
Aiman tak kisah
Good luck with the SPM Civil Dude!
quote: “I maybe dont agree with both sided but I don’t think its important that i told what they do are wrong or you are wrong or who ever its wrong. The point is to do your own work without pointing finger.” – John Doe
Thanks. I guess many would rather do that instead of expressing their unhappiness with certain things and then get embroiled in a lot of resulting bullshit.
But as I was saying, there are people who would rather speak out and say something. And as I said before, they should be able to do just that without us going goo-goo-ga-ga with emotional rantings.
I always think that criticising your own self, your own scene is very good. Being aware of what you’ve done, didn’t do, achieve or didn’t achieve, fucked up or didn’t etc. is crucial for the next step to take. And most of the time this critical assessment didn’t come from you yourselves, but its from people around you. Some people may call it “finger-pointing”, putting the blame etc. but if no one yelled “Fire!”, no one would see the house is burning.
Good luck people!
To EIN AGAIN;
Mengenai ini “You leave so much dirt in our face,How are we goin to forgive you?dammit bro, you screw it up.Its just a fuckin events”
Yes i know ni refer kat aku..now here’s the explaination again..
1st – seperti yg aku tulis bukan aku start kecoh. aku just balas apa yang aku tahu and base on my belives and view..
2nd – aku punya post di forum ni bermula at post nombor 11th pada 2006/10/13 at 08:43:15 ..and itu apa yang aku balas ke Nizang when dia mentioned about 1996 and 2006 thing..
3rd – the next post was then posting nombor 51st pada 2006/10/15 at 07:03:45 and aku buka citer mengapa diy_jeff tulis sebegitu mengikut pandangan aku (if this u think i backstab aku tak tahu la)
4th – the same post aku ada juga balas to THISDAYALLGODSDIE (yes kami dah clear and settle right but aku nak jelaskat Ein jap)
and here’s what he wrote:
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“Aku tengok organizers yg keluar duit untuk show ni semuanya terdiri daripada pekerja buruh yang willing untuk sacrifice half daripada duit gaji bulanan (hasil titik peluh kerja 9 to 5/shift worker) mereka untuk menjayakan show ni. Ada juga yang takde duit nak kahwin pasal duit gaji banyak yang dihabiskan untuk scene. Ada yang hutang menimbun pasal duit gaji banyak dihabiskan untuk scene. Itu semua dikorbankan untuk menjaga ethic DIY itu sendiri. Atas nama tanggungjawab”
this is what i reply since cara dia tulis cam budak UxF je..so here’;s where the Rm20k disebut:
“All i can comment about apa This Day Gods Die tulis …Well most of us dari dulu spend a lot of money for the scene. Bukan sahaja habiskan duit gaji..some of us even jeopardise our job for the sake of the scene…(contoh ada yang semata2 ambik mc or ambik cuti sebab nak pegi gig; ada yang photocopy flyers kat office, curi envelope ofis utk kegunaan distro kawan2, etc benda2 yang boleh kena buang kerja gak la..) Not just organised gig, even records, zines, flyers and stuff. So benda ni tak perlu diceritakan coz most of us yang dtg pegi tgk gig or beli stuff dlm gig pun guna duit gaji…But all i know is that UxF dpt sponsor RM20k from one label from Johor and yang aku dpt tahu is that depa kena ambik band selection mereka. I’m not sure which band but yag aku dgr dulu is Klux Klux Adventure, The Times (band under Tang bekas Strange Culture Records), Love Me Butch and so on if they want to get the RM20k sponsor. Itu je aku tahu…SO kalau nak citer titik peluh semua org dah melalui pengalaman itu but Rm20K..wow!!! Aku tak support or even support these show but ALL I KNOW IS UXF IS NOT A DIY LABEL. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT. SO TAK AKAN NAK PAKSA DORANG BUAT BENDA YANG BUKAN KEHENDAK MEREKA? SO AT LEAST THEY DO IT FROM THEIR HEART BUKAN PURA2.Itu satu la..but again as I SAID DIY IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE BUT “CONCERN” IS THE WHOLE ISSUE.
So ko leh baca part yang aku besarkan font tu. If that’s consider backstab to you….entahler… Aku juga tulis “Aku tak support or even support these show ” agak menconfuiskan tul tak..well it means aku tak peduli langsung and that’s why kalau nak kata aku support tak juga..nak kata aku tak support tak juga…so aku tak peduli korang nak buat apa..itu your label your call..so adakah ini bermaksud aku against or boikot korang???
and the Rm20k where also mention coz kenapa lak sampai nak sebut or ungkit ada yang tak dpt kahwin, guna separuh gaji when u already had Rm20k in hands? Is just a question la Ein..is that backstabb to you…sebab THISDAYALLGODSDIE tulis cam tu yang buat aku ingat dia part of UxF and why bersusah payah cam tu sedangkan dah dpt sponsorship? Itu jer persoalannya…..
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To THISDAYALLGODSDIE
Aku tak kenal or tahu sapa Shahril88 is…so can;t help u with the myspace profile thing
CONTINUE TO EIN UXF
5th – Post yang ke -55 aku reply kepada xin|case|breakdownx yang dia post pada 2006/10/15 at 09:52:17
“to boy DF , if u not sit on the same table don’t assume that u know everything … 20k or not … its not a problem right .. but the main concern is now , how much this kids been struggle to set this to be done … don’t juz judge it from whut u here … u NEVER BEEN THERE ! OK ! … correct me if i’m wrong …”
and also balas Peisay since dia kata
“to boy, takyah citer benda yg kau tak sure. lagipun we have come a long way since strange culture right?”
ini apa yang aku bals di post ke-55 tu:
“I know about 20K coz Ein of United Front told me..coz they invited my band to play in KL..the 1st plan was Chronic Mass, NET, 4-Sides, Disaster Funhouse and FC5 at KL Pac (that was the 1st plan masa dia jemput my band few months back). But then we have skateboard competition on the same day of the gig. Both me and Joe were the judges…and we rejected to play and 2ndly , i’ve found out about FC5 and that’s another reason. I know it’s RM20k coz that’s what i heard from Ein’s mouth thru the phone. ACTUALLY I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE Rm20k..but my point here is what “This Days God Die” tulis he said about titik peluh and stuff…it’s like he/she were saying that all these while gig yang sebelum ni semua cam senang nak organised and this one was the hardest… well think about when there’s Rm20k in it. To me ia lagi menyenangkan kerja once dah dpt capital byk tu..that’s what i mentioned about RM20K..i tak kisah Rm20k ke or not but don’t say berapa titik peluh keluar or duit gaji habis…
Anothe rpart is “Ask Ein if he did mentioned to me about anything bout this gig…and also about the RM20k..i’m sure about that … like i said AKU TAK KISAH DEPA DPT RM20k KE TAK? That’s not the whole point…
To Peisey my friend: Earth Crisis? Well why not Piesay, they still exist and for your info Path of Resistence pun ada album baru and they are still a facist militant sxe and yet pro-life band on Roadrunner. So u all against fascist and there’s nothig wrong to play with a label yang support facist band? Cam tu..so if they have a racist or nazist band (IF la) means tak apa gak main..janji spread messege widely to more crowd…This is the ISSUE actually not about the RM20k or DIY pls understand apa yang aku cuba tegakan disini…Strange Culture memang dah lapuk punya cerita la..aku just bagitau The Times was under Tang. Itu jer…coz The Times pun ada dlm plan yang Ein sebut hari tu…
SORRY EIN HAVE TO MENTIONED YOUR NAME HERE here but it’s true right what you told me kan? Pls faham yang aku TAK HALANG apa yang korang buat coz itu KEHENDAK korang but cuba understand ISSUE facist band on Roadrunner tu…itu jer…adeh penat lak…
SO BACA APA AKU TULIS ESPECIALLY YANG FONT DIBESARKAN TU..ADAKAH INI SEMUA DIANGGAP FITNAH OR TIKAM BELAKANG??
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TO EIN
6th – Post yang ke 71 pada 2006/10/16 at 06:34:15 aku reply kepada Karen yang dia post di post ke 68 dan Thisdayallgodsdiie di post 67.
Here’s apa ThisDayAllGodsDie tulis:
“tak bosan ke asyik cedok intel dari mulut orang lain (bukan dari source yang betul) then sebarkan kat internet bagi orang benci sana sini? ”
Here’s KAren tulis:
“Hey, what’s up with you and talking about the RM20k sponsorship? If you don’t know what the real story is, don’t you go around propagating bullshit on a public forum. If you aren’t happy with it, why don’t you talk to UnitedxFront face-to-face like a man instead of hiding behind a computer screen? Ein was good enough to want to have your band play, yet you turn around and fucking stab him in the back? Where are YOUR ethics?
and satu lagi dari KAren:
“AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION BoyDxF, the sponsor was NOT from Johor as you claimed. The sponsor was NOT a label. And Joe Kidd, the sponsor DID NOT demand certain bands play. Klux Klux Adventure was NOT even in the list! You, BoyDxF, are disseminating FALSE INFORMATION and that, in my humble opinion, is FUCKED UP.
I don’t appreciate your shit, BoyDxF.”
So Ein harap ko tahu kenapa aku balas jawapan mereka. Like you mentioned dlm YM that u know that i’m being honest and that’s why i tell them the truth from what i heard from yu thru the phone. Situasi disini..jika aku tak balas FOR SURE org lain ingat aku yang buat cerita dan tipu. So terpaksa gak la citer..but bila dah citer..org lain tuduh aku BACKSTAB pulak..So camner? Just read back apa yang aku reply kepada kedua org yang aku sebutkan dipost 67 dan 68.
Reply aku kemereka dua:
“aku tak ckp CONFIRM dpt pun and aku pun tak kata tak agree dorang dpt rm20k or not..(pls qoate kalau ada) ”
“but like i said… rm20k and from label johor tu is what EIN told me..so don’t blame me bukan2 la or buat cerita coz that’s what EIN told me thru phone and also what HUZAIBA told me thru ym..same thing….either they terima that sponsor or not tu aku tak tahu la..but the rm20k is TRUE…so u all jgn nak buat cerita kata aku buat cerita…that’s BULLSHIT….the times, klux klux adventure, memang ada disebut sebelum ini utk gig di KL. Again aku tak buat cerita sebab like i said depa jemput band aku main and band2 The Times, Klux Klux Adventure ni memang EIN ada sebut kat aku..but it seems sekarang kat flyers tak da so itu decision dorang la….kenapa korang kata aku buat cerita since EIN, HUZAIBA dari United Front yang juga selaku organiser yang bagitau benda ni kat aku…kenapa korang kata aku dpt unsur dari org tak betul…”
and here’s more
“To Karen..
I think u misjudge about me and i didn’t mentioned a thign about DIY..just wait for that reply from Encik diy_jeff which is i assume who? JEALOUSY no..i’m just stoked when a user above mentioned about hard working and stuff..it’s like all these while that all gig organiser didn’t work hard..and that’s why i said about the RM20k. Coz the user above mentioned that those gig organiser used half of their salary for this event..well we all did bro, we all did that before so don’t mentioned it…but to me if i get a RM20k sponsorship it would make my work easier..maybe not to you lah..but salah ke aku ckp in my opinion..coz aku pun pernah organised gig beb…
Hey Karen, i also don’t appreciate your BULLSHITness here.. About the sponsorship from Johor and RM20k..that’s what i heard from EIN’s mounth thru phone and what Huzaiba type to me in YM. So don’t try to fool me or everyone here. Isn’t Ein and Huzaiba from United Front part of the organisers? So you were telling me now that they were LYING lah if you say i state out FALSE INFORMATION..so blame that to them la ..apa da karen bukan nama sebenar..penakut nak tonjol diri…again another gangster internet (pergh..leh buat lagu baru pasal ni)…
and last thing, if the sponsor not from Johor or not i don’t care..like i said i don’t care if they’ve got the sponsor..it’s not an issue to me la coz bukannya aku organise pun..it’s an issue to me when someone mentioned how hard they work for this gig and used their own poket money..it;s like this was the hardest gig ever organised in Malaysia..hope u understan what i mean..and that’s where i mentioned about the RM20k (since u mentioned self pocket money and half of their own salaray and ada yang tak dpt kahwin and shit) coz to me if my team had that amount of sponsorship..it would have been easier dude..so hope u got what i’m trying to say…the RM20k is not an issue la..just refer to that separuh gaji punya point oleh thisdayallgodsdie…kelakar seh korang ni..benda simple cam ni pun tak leh faham..
and for your info i didn’t stabbed EIN United Front back la idiot ..i stated out everything was told to me. Coz people keep talking bout this gig (ni bukan thread gig tu ke?) so i told them..people keep pop up question..and you keep ignore about the klux klux and the times and kata aku tipu….so what i did here is reply your question from the source direct from the organiser..face to face and thru phone..tak sama ker (would they say it differently if face to face or talked thru phone?)…hiding behind pc??..well at least i have the guts to let everyone here knows who i am with my name on..not like you all who still hang out and go to gig but afraid of showing yourself behind that stupid ID name…APa punya manusia da u all…DON”:T BLAME ME bukan bukan la…like i said tanya EIN..pegi tany EIN ada tak dia bagitau itu semua kat AKU..Pegi tanya dia dulu sebelum korang TUDUH aku..pegi la..aku cabar sekarang…this is not issue nak back stab la..this is about the TRUTH!!! Ein still my friend u idiot…if i back stabbed him then i won’t have help Second Combat to get a release came out on Commitment records la…
AGain kepada sesiapa yang BODOH nak faham..again aku tak ada niat nak halang pun about the sponsorship or the RM20k.or The Times, or Klux Klux Adventure main ke…aku mentioned tak semestinya aku tuduh or kutuk or menentang or menghalang mereka…aku mentioned sebab u all nak tahu kan…if my source was a FALSE like Karen ckp then the organiser la yang tipu or maybe cuba nak cover them selves up..KENAPA? Don’t asked me la..aku tau takat tu jer..lebih pada tu aku tak tahu..aku tahu the early stage of the gig plan and story…apa perubahan selepas tu aku tak tahu sebab aku pun tak main gig tu dah (which Karen said FALSE INFO..yeah right…)”
and last part aku tambah:
“* Karen: i didn’t say u were lying about the sponsorship not from johor label ..but just let u know again that’s what EIN told me..ok? ada faham…u want EIN hp number..nak call dia?
SO I’M BEING HONEST AND STR8FORWARD HERE. SAMA ADA AKU SEBUT KE TAK NAMA KO. STILL ORG KUAT UXF IS U AND HUZAIBA. FLYERS KAT ATAS TERANG2 UXF ORGANISED SO BUAT APA NAK TAKUT DGN APA YG KORANG TEGAKAN OR BUATKAN? ORG BLAME AKU BUAT CITER .PADAHAL AKU DPT DIRECT DARI KORANG DUA..SO HARAP KO FAHAM KENAPA AKU TULIS DI ATAS TU. ADAKAH INI BACKSTABB BAGI KO?
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7th – Post aku yang ke 74 pada 2006/10/16 at 10:06:22 rpely to Karen
“i wasn’t told it was confidential…sorry….so you were one of them.. but i’m not making fun of Ein or trying to accuse them wrong like i said again..i don’t care if they got the Rm20k or not..it’s their label and they have their own freewill…
now u have gone too far when you said i wanted them to get boycotted…NO!!!! Again i brought up the sponsorship issue coz one of the user above said u guys were using your own money i mean half of your salary for this event and it makes me laugh coz everyone in the scene doing a show had expereince the same thing. But when i heard about the sponsorship of RM20k so i was wndering why would they spend half of their salary when they have the RM20k already (DAH KURANG BEBAN kat situ so kenapa kata tak dpt kahwin la, kuar titik peluh la, habis separuh duit gaji la..DANG!!!)…that’s why i brought it up..no intention of boycotting or what so ever…you can aksed around..is there any e-mail or sms or me calling all bands or gig goers to boycott this…damn u r too much of accusing me..
Dude..that’s what EIN told me..i’m here not to blame EIN but your post above said i ‘ve got from a FALSE INFORMATION…dude..i’m done with this..i’m telling the truth of what i heard not from 2nd hand people but direct from Ein”
and here:
“I’m posting all these not becoz i wanted to boycotted them or against them..it’s becoz u said i lie and get FALSE INFO (ni dah lari topik dah actually)…I guess there’s nothing wrong putting it and i don’;t think putting this true fact here does effects our friendship either…
and as i said, the info was told to me few months back and i have no idea if there’s any changes now or today. So i’m SORRY if there’s misunderstanding bout that..But again i did tell the truth and bukan buat cerita ya…”
SO HARAP KO BACA TELITI LA….
TO EIN..
After dah explain semua..Karen still tak puas ati ngan aku..so ko leh nilai sendiri sapa yang mengadakan unsur2 nak gaduh or bermusuh actually..aku rileks jer…yesterday the whole day aku try to call u and ko tak pick up…kenapa? face to face or thru phone still aku kana ckp benda yang sama…but then you online YM sebelum berbuka semalam..and yet you lie to me dimana hang ckp hang tak kenal Karen…well maybe u dlm keadaan emo or marah..Well Ein you have the reason to mad at me coz i then realise that i shouldn’t speak out but the rm20k sponsorship and i’m sorry i;ve messed up…i know i shouldn’t have mentioned it coz i’m not even part of uxF..But apa yang aku tulis ni bukan nak against ko but bagi ko faham kenapa Rm20k tu boleh terbongkar and the issue aku tak agaisnt korang fo rsure…well after ko bagitau aku thru fon tu about RM20k few months back..bebudak HC keramat semua dah tahu gak..aku tak bagitau pun…yang pasti aku ingat ko tak ada ckp it’s CONFIDENTIAL, KEEP IT SECRET OR JGN KECOH KAT SESIAPA..ko tak ada sebut pun…but i know tindakan posting it here kinda rude like Karen said and again sorry…Ko kata “How are we goin to forgive you?dammit bro, you screw it up” Yes i screwed up..oo..well it’ s up to u if ko tak leh maafkan aku…terpulang la bro..aku cuma discuss disini tak ada niat jahat pun…org dah tuduh aku bukan2 so harap ko faham la..but i still anggap u as my friend..and pls note that everyone makes mistakes…yang PENTING aku dah sms, ym dan post sini dan tulis SORRY byk kali dah…ko ta nak terima or maafkan then i have nothing to say my friend..
ermm wow whut a along description boy .. i wonder why u have so much time to explain to the whole world about it .. its juz easy for u to juz call this and that person or juz meet somewhere and sattle it and clear it … now whut i can see its now it become more personal and i think not everyone here wanna know about ya personal thing … xxx
peace for all ..
” time will tell whos the hardest and whos the strong .. – Stomping Ground “
Ok this is just aquestion to Ein and Karen since both of you on the same team under UxF or organiserss
Karen freakism post on 2006/10/16 at 03:58:44
“AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION BoyDxF, the sponsor was NOT from Johor as you claimed. The sponsor was NOT a label. And Joe Kidd, the sponsor DID NOT demand certain bands play. Klux Klux Adventure was NOT even in the list! You, BoyDxF, are disseminating FALSE INFORMATION ”
einvgun post on 2006/10/17 at 02:55:23
“We borrow money from this labels to make an events.”
So was is a label or not..karen said not a label and Ein said a label…????
Ini balas aku kat EIN on this: “Do you ever had chinese bands in your shows?The only thing that we think about was making a multiracial gig that seldomly held in any of the Malaysian events, ”
Yes we had it a lot of times. I still remember playing wtih Penang DISH (grunge / all cina), My Pet Alien (All india / alternative band), Cramp Mind (front by Ah Keong Psychic Scream yet another great legend old school HC band from Penang), The Beats (all chinesse indie band), DNA (all sarawakian punk rock bands) and many more even aku pernah main band nama INPUT..all cina and we play indie and rock music..tanya bebudak MUCk mungkin dorang ingat sebab aku main drum..we even masuk Canto Rock contest and cover lagu Beyond, Grashopper, Metallica, Neds Atmic Dustbin, rat CAt, etc…so we have nothing to against your will Ein..it’s good apa yang ko cuba nak buat tu…Go EIN go!!!
“So tell me what did you do? ”
Is this refers to me coz i didn;t questioned you anything about it? kalau nak aku jawap bab ni ok gak..but if this refer kat org2 yang against ko di atas ni then aku SHUT UP je la…
To xin|case|breakdownx
yang panjang lebar tu sebab aku qoate balik point2 dimana aku tak mengata apa2 about boikot, against them…aku tulis byk kali yang aku tak kisah bout the Rm20k…siap cover up and support United Front lagi..ko baca je bahagian yang aku besarkan font tu jer jika malas nak baca semua…yang atas tu byk aku copy pate balik la…tu yang panjang tu..bukannya personal sgt pun..aku dah cuba settle dah..Ein tak jawab call aku…nanti la….
Nak kata atas tu personal tak..tapi byk org “pointing fingers” dan salah faham..ada yang tak reti bahasa or tak faham pun ada….tu yang pelik tu…kita cuba discuss and explain..but others ada yang kuar perkataan jahat la..naik emo la..hmmm…sabar la wei..puasa wei…
ekk … tak faham faham la ko nie … ok aku tulis melayu la .. ein tue kerja bukan dier salalu online cam ko .. dier pun ada tanggungan nak dijalankan bukan semata mata nak online nak menjawap soalan ko semata mata … ko nak konfomasi kontact dier terus or dtg tempat dier kerja … sonang ! … ekk bahaso nogori la plak …
u juz push it it but u never realize it ok … nak kata ko bodoh ko marah ! boy seriusely i respect u since the old days but sometimes u act too darm crazy ,its beyond too far already … i really admire u whut u say and done … but this is a really simple thing that anyone can easily to handle it … juz need some time … better than u wait here typing whole days and make somebody hate u …
clear my words ? … hopefully u understand this situation .. u wanna talk about those roadrunner band ok lets do it … i luv earth crisis… so whut ? ….
” whuts da point , whuts the reason .. – NET ”
p/s : cakap hardcore , hardcore jugak zakat fitrah dah sattle ke belum ?
aku tau la dia kerja..but selalu kalau aku call dia..dia sure akan return call aku…ok clear la…aku poning la bukan tak faham..ni pun sibuk gak ni ….semua org ada tanggungjawab and semua org ada masalah…
aku senang online sebab kerja aku buat kat umah..aku tak kerja ngan org..aku buat kerja mengadap pc aku..aku buat video editing, web site, penulis part time, etc…dah setahun aku tak kerja..byk buat freelance jer..kekadang jadi judge dan emcee acara skateboard..hehehe…wokeh…
Zakat dah….
Earth Crisis huh…well back to the real topic it seems…well aku pun tghkan hal ni sebab aku dpt tangkap apa yang diy_jeff cuba terangkan…. and hell yes dulu aku suka la E.Crisis but after what they did and baca interview dorang yang facist and bodoh..aku tak suka dah…Firestorm pun dah lamo den tak dgr dah ha. hehehe…. lagu Hc zaman kegemilangan tu..hahahaha…
owh. Sorry people, I just found out that some IP addresses are just unreliable. I check a few IPs of the commenters here and some are pointed to be in Queensland! So, sorry. My mistake. So diy_jeff can be malaysian or from mars, I don’t know. But i don’t think it’s important though.
BOYDXF,
Why are you panicking and reposting everything you ever posted on this forum just so one person could reread it AGAIN? Don’t you think it’s a waste of his time? Do you think he’s stupid? You obviously are.
The way you go about how “Oh, I didn’t know it was confidential; Oh, I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to say anything; Oh, I didn’t know my arse was on fire,” one would imagine you to be a helluva uneducated bastard who’s never done any business transactions, been involved in P&C deals, or even signed up for his own e-mail account. Certain things are meant to be kept quiet about. It’s common sense. Are you going to give us your bank account number here now?
About calling Ein, you forgot to add that YOU’VE BEEN IGNORING HIS CALLS FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS. So, I don’t see why he can’t do the same to you since you seemed to think it was ok a couple of weeks ago.
If you’re so hellbent on talking to him, go look for him. You know where he works. You know where he hangs out. You know where he lives. Go look for him. You live in Keramat. It’s not as if you live in fuckin’ Kuantan and it’s difficult for you to get a bus over. Do it instead of posting it online. He doesn’t have time to check this forum all the time.
To your question:
So was is a label or not..karen said not a label and Ein said a label…????” –BoyDxF.
I said the SPONSOR was not a label. Ein was talking about borrowing money from other labels to make this gig happen. YOU READ IT PROPERLY BEFORE TELLING OTHERS TO READ YOUR POSTS PROPERLY.
Give it a rest la. I thought this was settled already. Why do you need to bring it up again, BoyDxF?
hi friends.
not to be rude.
i signed in just for the sake of this threat.
wellsaid my friend,
from oldschool88 to metalcore, to anything that relates,
HC is nothing but to set up the trends, style and to make money out of music.
yet, trying to be trendsetter among others.
now, people are not making rekord labels, but doing t-shirt labels.
and i’ve heard and seen, this one clothing label from BBHC(the trendy part of kl)
is making money out of HC! they’re making real money man!
and i’ve heard there’s a lot of clothing label coming up, all from HC kids,
that want to get money from other. and i dont think that the owner is
from HC itself, just like TANG did strange culture.
(yeah it’s good signs of a growing scene,
but wtf? where’s the ethic?)
and people not trading stuff nowadays, they sell stuff!
people made up youthcrew, and not making friends, to be exact and clear,
this crew thingy is separating scene apart, because, you HAVE to be in the crew
or else, is this a good example for the newbies? for the budak¬? baru nak naik?
what? was it 20k?
dude, come on, just go and get money from DIGI or MAXIS and get full
sponsor, so people like me can download ringtones and mms of the
FAVOURITE HC BAND that play at the biggest rock show in malaysia.
im really look forward for this!
well, i’m pretty sad to be one of the music follower in malaysia.
it’s totally different from what i’ve read and comprehend in zines for the past 8-9 years ago.
it’s good that one can set up a big gig, bring big bands and get sponsors,
but dude, dont claim yourself as a HC,PUNK or a DIY PUNK/HC
thats totally wrong. just be a rocker or popper.
i can see these HC/PUNK kids in malaysia is totally out for glam,
because, they dont really practice what they preach.
HC is totally SELL OUT.
fucking sell out.
im just being a kid again.
and so pisssed of after all this bullshit.
MINTA MAAF KEPADA SESIAPA YANG TERASA,
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE GROW AND LEARN.
regards,
hardcore version 23.5
MYHC.
yela yela..u ni asal nak naik angin jer..am i panicking? Can u see me aaa…? it easy for you to say to come to see him..yes i can but not now la..i’m looking after my kids la n many work to do…..actually i dah copy in words all that above thing i’ve post and will show Ein la..i dah higlight part2 yang nak dia baca…i will call him tonight…and i won’ t just go and see him coz i pun tak tahu schedule dia cam ner..ker dia MC ker…so i will call him before see him…but at the moment he did’t pick up so i wait la time dia cool down…talking bout P& C deals..then why let me know if it was P&C…aiya byk susah la…nanti jumpa la…nanti i tell u why such P&C things has been spread to a lot people before this hot topic here..not even people that u know..How come? Haiya i malas nak layan lagi..i posrt benda atas for Ein but u yg balas and marah lak tu..
“YOU’VE BEEN IGNORING HIS CALLS FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS.”So, I don’t see why he can’t do the same to you since you seemed to think it was ok a couple of weeks ago.
Seriously he did called me past 2 weeks ago?…no i didn’t received any misscalled from him….coz if not i would have call him back…u can asked him la…you sure ke the same Boy…on my side of story.. i didn’t received any call from Ein since i ‘ve told him that my band can’t play. That was even before puasa..anyway kenapa u suka nak marah tak tentu pasal…
“To your question:
So was is a label or not..karen said not a label and Ein said a label…????” –BoyDxF.
I said the SPONSOR was not a label. Ein was talking about borrowing money from other labels to make this gig happen. YOU READ IT PROPERLY BEFORE TELLING OTHERS TO READ YOUR POSTS PROPERLY. ”
Damn i just nak tanya which one la now..borrow or get sponsor…i post that just nak tahu je..bukan nak salah kan u both ckp bukan2…apa da…
And hell yes we (u and me and others dah settle) have settle but Ein; i think i ‘ve to meet him la.. Ok? memang we (that’s u , thisdaysallgodsdie, and the rest here) are cool..mana ada gaduh..sapa guna ayat kasar dan meleting and tuduh tak tentu pasal? Hmm..i dah lupa la sapa?
Sedikit pandangan dari saya :
Nampaknya perbincangan yang agak baik di dalam thread ini sudah bertukar kepada ‘perbalahan’ benda-benda remeh! Saya berasa cukup kelakar melihat ini berlaku kerana ini masih menunjukkan bahawa kadang kala kita terlupa bahawa semua perbalahan remeh ini hanya membuang masa dan masih menunjukkan tahap kebudak-budakan pemikiran kita!
Pada pandangan peribadi saya, tidak menjadi kesalahan sekiranya kita boleh bekerjasama asalkan semuanya untuk sesuatu yang positif! Bekerjasama dan mencuba sasuatu yang baru adalah suatu tindakan yang perlu dipuji, selagi tindakan itu tidak akan membawa kesan negatif kepada diri sendiri dan kepada am (Negatif di sini merujuk kepada perkara-perkara yang dapat membawa kepada kerosakan). Janganlah kita terlalu tertutup dalam kelompok kita dan cuba memenjarakan orang lain dengan prinsip dan dogma kita. Kita patut melihat dan menilai sesuatu itu dari pelbagai sudut supaya kita dapat melihat impak maksima sesuatu perkara tersebut.
Merayakan kepelbagaian di dalam hidup akan memperkayakan perbendaharaan ilmu kehidupan kita!
Bagi saya, HC/Punk atau DIY, semuanya berpaksikan diri sendiri.
Definisinya memang subjektif, tapi secara amnya dapat saya simpulkan bahawa DIY adalah cara dan prinsip dalam kita menghadapi kehidupan. Sekiranya kita dapat mengadaptasikan DIY di dalam kehidupan kita (tanpa menjuruskan ia kepada scene HC/Punk semata-mata) sudah pasti kita dapat lihat impaknya kepada perkembangan hidup kita. DIY memperkayakan hidup! Dan di dalam scene HC/Punk di malaysia ini,
apa yang tragisnya kebanyakkan orang hanya mahu DIY dalam scene, tapi tidak cuba untuk mengadaptasikannya di luar scene.
Apa yang tragisnya masih ada yang mahu menyempitkan pandangan walhal tidak cuba membebaskan diri dari penjara dogma.
“In other words, you’re better off spending your time enriching your life by falling in love, getting hurt, observing people, reading poetry, watching films, painting, photographing, travelling, and just living life, rather than burying yourself too much in books on film theories and script writing.” – Yasmin Ahmad
PS – Jangan masam muka, cubalah bermanis muka dan berhati gembira! Dunia memerlukan kegembiraan, bukan kerungsingan dan kemarahan!
“Putting the “HA” back into HARDCORE” – GOODCLEANFUN
Untuk petikan dari Yasmin Ahmad tersebut, saya pasti sekiranya kita semua dapat memikrkan lebih dalam temtang petikan tersebut, kita dapat kaitkan ina dengan perbincangan di dlaam thread ini.
Sekian!
Untuk petikan dari Yasmin Ahmad tersebut, saya pasti sekiranya kita semua dapat memikrkan lebih dalam tentang petikan tersebut, kita dapat kaitkan ia dengan perbincangan di dalam thread ini.
Sekian!
Memang benda remeh pun..then ada org fire sana sini..tuduh sana sini…bila aku jelas still blame sana sini..then benda tak akan habis la kan..so memang aku akan jumpa Ein sorang je utk settle hal ni..sebab sekarang ni dia terasa aku tikam belakang dia…
anyway ni Ejoi mana ni? Ejoi Perak ke?
itu ejoi sadis la … hehe
Ini ada satu cadangan (dan sudah pastinya saya hanya pandai berikan cadangan sahaja) :
Apa kata kepada “organizer gig” di dalam scene Malaysia cuba membuat satu gig dengan kolaborasi badan-badan NGO untuk membuat satu gig benefit (bantu badan NGO macam MAKNA, MERCY dan sebagainya)? Kalau tak dapat untuk berikan semua kutipan, sekurang-kurangnya ketepikan sebahagian keuntungan untuk badan-badan NGO tersebut.
Saya rasa dengan membuat sedikit perubahan pasti kita dapat memberikan impak positif kepada scene Malaysia.
Sekian usul saya Yang Dipertua!
Ejoi Sadis, ADUN Gopeng 🙂
yah, rasa2nya.. dah tak perlu nak sapa2 nak fire sapa2 dalam ni.. jumpe jer terus, senang. dpt full info, baru semua settle. most problem occure sebab takde siapa yang nak confront, asyik2 berbalas taip (nak kate bertekak tak tepat pula sebab semua org menaip) dalam message board, sampai bile pun takkan settle. kengkadang bende remeh pun boleh jadik gaduh kalu tiap2 jam/hari asyik berbalah dalam internet. dulu zaman2 surat, pastu Mirc, pastu message board, pastu forum, pastu kalu ikut sensasi terkini – myspace. so, boy…. go for it. i think the best part is to meet ein and to clear everything up. hopefully takkan ade lagi misunderstanding pasal isu gig FC Five ni.
ya betoi tu hatkor!!!
Ok hatkor i’ll meet him..offcourse..senang citer kan ..once settle semua happy dan no more misunderstanding or fire sana sini tak tentu hala….yeah!!! GO!!!
sell out ini semua.