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  1. thee dr. says:

    how about our old friends damage digital?not to mention multiplex,flesh parade,phobia,insect warfare,infectious maggots,selfmadegod,flash gordon,daughters,bukkake violence kommando-grindcore as a genre has evolved way past what it used to be and i think it’s gonna continue to be heavy (and revelant )for millennia

  2. sara says:

    album kedua Discordance Axis yg berjudul Jouhou dari 1998 tetap menjadi album grindcore pujaan pemecah gegendang telingaku!

  3. Joe Kidd says:

    I have to admit I stopped listening to grindcore for around 10 years now. Intermittently I would go back to the old classics, the usual Nausea / Terrorizer / Repulsion / early ND / early Carcass / Righteous Pigs / Unseen Terror and those mentioned above.

    This is because immediately after the first wave of grindcore bands, new shit with the more progressive post-grind leaning such as OLD’s Lo Flux Tube and Formula, the John Zorn / Micky Harris project, Painkiller and also Zorn’s grinding-jazz combo Naked City and also bands that were feeding off the grindcore / early crust vibes and making new noises (Godflesh, Fudgetunnel, Sleep etc) made all those early basic grindcore stuff rather lacking in depth – no disrespect to all of them of course but musically it currently serves as a fun bunch of nostalgic thrashing and nothing more.

    One main problem is the fact that too many bands took it a bit too seriously, even ND & Carcass became po-faced, serious grinders, going boringly technical with every new album; incorporating more and more staid extreme “metal” nuances rather than the more jagged, adventurous post-punk ideas (Killing Joke, Throbbing Gristle, Swans, etc.)

    Most of the grind stuff I liked also had this tongue-in-cheek character. Mostly humorous and not afraid to appear ridiculous. This is what I see with Damage Digital when I first see them. People said they ripped off Dischordance Axis, but I think they were a funny variant of that sound, something that have been carried on to this day by crazies such as Melt Banana.

    To cut the spiel short, I see most current grind bands losing that naughty spark of irreverent, satirical nature. And funnily enough that includes many of them who called themselves as gore-grind or porno-grind etc., all sub-genres born out of early grindcore’s habit of making fun of everything. As a friend once said it, playing with “irony” is fun, but it cannot go on without falling flat on its face.

    As for the current Malaysian hope, there’s Negation still going strong, and of course SMG with their countless releases but I like Tools Of Trade better. Ultimately though, the one than can really make me smile is none other than Onani.

  4. dean says:

    TOTT mmg rawk! haha..

  5. kid says:

    Mass Separation played with Proletar in Jakarta back in late 2005. They were tight!
    Negation and Tools Of The Trade, no doubt two of the top crops in our local grindcore league.
    on the other hand, i would recommend checking out for Blood on Wedding Dress and Infinite Delay though some of you extreme music worshippers may disagree and not see them as grindcore (mind you they dont flash Earache’s tshirts). but if you’re talking about the Indonesian grindcore scene, my favourite would be Raja Singa! their latest release on Straineyes were brilliant! Anyway, I’m keeping my eyes open for Karenaneko and Alchemy Of Sickness new releases (their previous debuts were quite promising!).

  6. mohd tiong says:

    Dean pon rawk.

  7. Kia says:

    Dean montok! Bila nak amik CD Hark?

  8. dean says:

    adoii..en naza kia, aku dah hampir terlupa. anytime bro. ada gig bawak je, kalu dtg aku amik. ko bg hint je (atau ckp terus, hehe). aritu lupa langsung kt cm. aiseh..sorry2..

    raja singa mmg awesome gile! extreme decay ttp menjadi pojaan hati ku.

    alchemy of sickness tak berpeluang dgr lagi tp karenaneko mmg layan.

    tak payah ckp tiong, gua tau gua mmg rawk. miahaha..

    dean,
    ex-Government Issue

  9. epit says:

    mass separation best…
    tott best…
    negation best…

    tapi dean tak best.
    haha

  10. thee dr. says:

    Negation along with Social Infection-there’s a fuckin aural assault right there-check out some of the bands in my myspace top ie Trencher and Psyopus-super -technical but pretty silly at the same time-what about Slum Scum and Demisor?They were pretty good too not to mention Brutal Scane out of KT and Parasit out of Jengka?I gotta shout out to my East Coast peeps…Another band I really like is those Failure Trace guys from Thailand-it’s aggressive as fuck-do SMG have a myspace page anymore…?

  11. mohd tiong says:

    epit tgn bercabang pon best.tu blom cite abg faris hilton jari berapi lagi tuh.magnicide from singapore pon awesome.

  12. xrajunax says:

    lagi bising,lagi raw,lagi simple lagi aku suka
    band pilihan:dislocated cerebrum,bloodletting

    eh ni dah ke lain ni.
    haha
    😛

  13. dean says:

    bloodletting awesome! harap band project punkrock/oi! dak2 bloodletting dgn “the singing lawyer” menjadi la yer. miahaha ;p

  14. cactusdistro says:

    Les scrawl and cause and effect is very good for inventing kinda new style in grindcore genre.. I like them a lot. Its grindcore but really light and easy. anyone know other bands that played the same style as them?

  15. cactusdistro says:

    correction its cause for effect!

  16. Joe Kidd says:

    it’s Le Scrawl. Thanks Wan. Will be checking out both bands.

    By the way people, Melt Banana wanted to come here and play (along with Bangkok and Singapore), we were talking on the possibilities about a month ago but then they need “tambang terbang” from Japan and that’s beyond our reach at the moment. Ada anak-anak datuk kat sini yang boleh sponsor tak?

  17. mohd tiong says:

    rakan2..check out gak band2 ni , leng tch’e & army of the flying robots.mantap,superb & padu.sound2 yg agk berat,jitu dan sedap didengar dlm jangka mase yg lame.eheheheeh..

  18. dean says:

    army of the flying robots mmg ngetop! tp ntah kenapa aku sukakan sound2 yg lebih rock gitu. coliseum, doomraiders, young widows, saviours, etc sgt mencengkam! these arms are snake juga cun ala2 cave in gitu. haha…lari topic dh ni.

    pergh..melt banana! gile tu. tp mmg x mampu la klu sampai cover tambang terbang merbang sume ni. this is your call org2 berkemampuan! yeah!

  19. Joe Kidd says:

    Cause For Effect is mad! Two guys; drum & bass, grunts, and no guitar. Reminds me of early No Means No when there were just a duo back 1979, but of course, NMN features no grind-grunts.

    myspace.com/causeforeffect – Finland.

  20. conquestforbread says:

    oh yes, Man of conveyors are pretty awesome grindcrust too.If you dig disrupt or old ent.http://www.myspace.com/mantheconveyors

  21. thee dr. says:

    army of flying robots!!!!yes!!!!

  22. emacm says:

    adoi, 22 posts later and still no mention of
    the incomparable ANAL CUNT?!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_Cunt

    AxCx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Joe Kidd says:

    Anal Cunt’s releases are commonly available through all the local DIY distros and gig tables for years, boss. They have so many releases being traded about in the local scene that no one really need to mention their name.

    Since you’re the supreme listener / discoverer of everything “incomparable”, I look forward for a long list of new or “unknown” bands/acts which we all should check out. That would be exciting. And don’t forget to give us them links too.

  24. Joe Kidd says:

    Thanks for sharing guys, will be checking these out:

    ARMY OF FLYING ROBOTS:
    yspace.com/armyofflyingrobots

    MAN THE CONVEYORS
    myspace.com/mantheconveyors

    note: seems like Man The Conveyors is more euro-crust than grind. but I’ll check it out.

    thanks. More tips people!!

  25. Joe Kidd says:

    a bit off-topic but here’s a good label dealing with “non-traditional” stuff:

    wallacerecords.com

  26. mohd tiong says:

    rakan2..band ni pon power gile gaban..tp sedih dh rip…grindustry from holland…http://www.myspace.com/grindustry

  27. emacm says:

    oops

    How about the incomparable Purulent Excretor?
    They dine on cock so must be good, yea?

    http://grindcrust.blogspot.com/2007/04/purulent-excretor-sex-beer-and.html

  28. fukuyama says:

    Alchemy Of Sickness..
    Grind Sampai Lebam..
    rules!!

  29. emacm says:

    The incomparable, but now sadly defunct, HATEWAVE
    — features a certain Weasel Walter on brutal pummel thum-a-thum

    http://www.myspace.com/thetruehatewave
    http://nowave.pair.com/hatewave/

  30. SANGSARARECORDS says:

    before O.L.D, the band name called Regurgitation

    if not mistaken, i put the Regurgitation CD for sale at ricecooker shop !!

    anyone have SIDE EFFECT reh/demo tape, grindcore band from sarawak ??

    Never Mind the Napalm… Here’s Sore Throat

  31. Joe Kidd says:

    Yes. boss! That Regurgitation CD is now mine! Not for sale! Hehe!

    Checking out HATEWAVE. Thanks!

  32. hatta says:

    dataclast is pretty sweet if you dig “cyber-grind’

    http://www.myspace.com/dataclast

  33. SANGSARARECORDS says:

    i still got a bunch of Regurgitation CD’s in my store, just need a little bit of time to hit ricecooker shop again, also RUINS CDs.

    A must for 2008 so far :

    Spazz/ 25 ta life split 7EP (come with different wax and cover,etc)
    BRUTAL TRUTH machine parts 7”EP (reissue, original released by deaf american)
    DYSTOPIA – new LP (last album)
    CIRCLE OF DEAD CHILDREN – Exotic Sense Decay reissue CD
    ENVY – Compiled Fragments 1997-2003 CD or double LP
    Thrashing like maniac compilation LP (new wave thrash metal bands compilation)
    KESUMAT tape (really good Malaysian power violence bands)
    RITES OF SPRING – All Through a Life 7EP (re issue)
    everything from CAT POWER
    and more more,

    seems in 2008, so many good new releases or reissue …

  34. thee dr. says:

    okay guys …this is my last comment for this topic…i leave you with a ‘listenography’ of shit to check out-tell me what you think:
    1.failure trace-‘quite pissed of this shit’
    2.damage digital-‘garam masala’
    3.trencher-‘illuminated dead’
    4.insect warfare-‘mind ripper’
    5.psyopus-‘whore meet liar’
    6.dr.acula-‘shocker on shock street’
    7.minus9-‘wake up and smell the blood’
    8.wasteoid-‘jerry aldo nova’ and ‘better hate for living’
    9.xrin arms-‘true summer’
    10.flesh parade-‘coping with it’ and ”bout had it’
    11.frightener-any!

    ‘KEEP IT FRASHY!!!!!’

    okay

  35. fukuyama says:

    Unholy Grave and Denak is the best for Raw Grindcore!!

  36. thee dr. says:

    Not to mention Brickbutt and flash Gordon..oh my bad I thought you said powerviolence…speaking of whom…
    AGORAPHOBIC NOSEBLEED

  37. thee dr. says:

    I mean ‘speaking of ‘which’..saye kadang terlupe bahase inggeris nih…sori…

  38. Dude says:

    also chekidaut:

    LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER (Spain)
    FACADA (Brazil)
    DISTURBANCE PROJECT (Spain)
    MACHETAZO (Spain)
    CRETIN (USA —- old-school REPULSION style!!!!)
    MY MINDS MINE (Netherland)

  39. Dude says:

    Also not to forget, Japanese king of grindrock…
    jeng…jeng…jeng….
    C.S.S.O

    grindcore + jimi hendrix = C.S.S.O.

  40. thee dr. says:

    Insect Warfare,Phobia and Assuck for old-school grindcore…what about STRONG INTENTION?They’re rather ‘strong’,as well…

  41. hatta says:

    insect warfare and hatred surge, that really keeps the blood pumping these days… and magrudergrind too… and if you’re fashionable, pig destroyer… strong intention is pretty sweet.

  42. resound101 says:

    There are too many to mention here, but for me Discordance Axis and Nasum have already given a new facade to the Grindcore scene. Not to forget Rotten Sound, Asterisk and Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus too. In grind we crust!

  43. resound101 says:

    But a deepest respect should goes to Napalm Death and Carcass contingents as they’re still waving the Grindcore flag until today since 80‚Äôs.

  44. fukuyama says:

    lycanthropy and sayyadina also cool..

  45. Dude says:

    Don’t forget NAUSEA from LA (side band of TERRORIZER)

    Joe..
    do you have any info about old grindcore act like PARASITE, SOCIAL INFECTION, MUTILATION, etcetc…

  46. resound101 says:

    NAUSEA wasn’t from TERRORIZER. It was formed by the ashes of MAJESTY. Here’s the prove:

    “MAJESTY evolved into NAUSEA. MAJESTY was just Eric Castro and myself, Jesse Pintado and Pete Sandoval were not part of MAJESTY” – Oscar Garcia explain in one interview done by Se@nocide.

  47. khairul azizi says:

    raw grind as fukk ..for sure i love mighty WARSORE also check out DAHMER.sadly they all rip already.FISTFUCK also good…more noise and raw!

  48. thee dr. says:

    Yeah what did happen to Social Infection and Parasite?Not to mention Reclamation Code?They should totally reform-the atmosphere is perfect for it now

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